Archive for March, 2008

PostHeaderIcon When you have to choose between two girls…

Haaa, this is something that I used to get so much pre-PU. It’s when your out one night and you have some, typically two, ‘leads’ for pulling that night. Often the situation is, one is fitter than the other but the least fit one would be easier. And you try to stay on the fence and game the fitter one, thinking that you can move back to the easier option if you don’t make it all the way with your first choice. Then something happens and you can’t pull the fitter one, then immediately after you find you’ve lost your chance to pull the other, and the bottom line reason is, you spent too much time with the other girl and wasted the chance.

Even pre-PU, this has gotten me several times, and post-PU, it still gets me. Take last night as a completely random example of this. It was completely ON with one girl, a not great body but pretty face and lovely girl. She was drunk, all over me, all the kino signs were there (pushing breasts into me when talking, close talking, in my personal space a lot, cheeks touching when talking, no resistance to any kino from me), and she verbally stated she was into me. And she was very horny/psyched up. The other chick, was hotter, not as much fun in the student party time sense of the word but cool and I could have a cool conversation with her. At first I was thinking I’d go for the less hot one, but as soon as it became more-or-less a sure thing I started getting a bit greedy, and the above scenario played itself out.

What happened was, the less hot girl was picked up by someone else (literally about 20 seconds from him walking up to her to kissing her, and this guy was no PUA/model to give an idea of how horny she was!). Meanwhile, I just could not get the hot one into a useable state (don’t mean that to sound manipulative…I mean into a more excited/cheerful state), she was a pretty ‘cool’ character and probably needed lots of ‘trust and comfort’ game which I didn’t have the time or effort for.

My problem here, as it has been always, was that I wanted the easiness of one chick with the looks of the other, conveniently forgetting these are not contained within the same girl. You get a good chance with one girl and you forget that even if it’s ON, there is still work to do and you can’t leave her to her own devices in a club full of horny guys!

No longer will this happen! I have a new plan. Now, upon noticing the situation when it arises, I will make a choice based on the following factors – If I really just want a lay, I will simply go for the easier option and be happy with it. Such as if there has been a dry spell of new lays, I want to keep momentum going, or if I just want a down and dirty lay that night (my low standards are well documented), ie “take one for the scoresheet”. If I am happy with the current new lay situation, ie I am pulling pretty often, I will go for quality and forget the easy lay. For you, it may be different. You might have the gameplan “whichever girl is hottest I will go for, no matter what” or “whichever girl I enjoy talking to most is the one I will go for”. The point is that you have to have a decision rule for this situation, because indecisiveness has been thoroughly field tested and found to be maddeningly ineffective!

PostHeaderIcon Assume Attraction

by Shezz

Everyone Fails. Whether it be at sports, in our jobs or with women – we all fail at some point in our lives. However, let me tell you that when i say you are going to forever banish the words ‘Fail’ and ‘Failure’ from your lexicon, i mean it…

How can one truly think, nay even dream about failing with women, it strikes me as being somewhat maddening and vaguely pathetic as to how anyone could think that ‘Failing’ to be successful around women could truly be called -’Failing’!

What do we perceive as failures – in seduction firstly:-

- Failing to have fun on a date
- Failing to approach
- Failing to be fluent in our conversations
- Failing to KINO
- Failing to maintain Eye Contact
- Failing to be fully justifiable when Complimenting
- Failing to ‘Be A Jerk’ or rather ‘Not being too nice’

Again! I say STOP! Extinguish the word FAILURE from your mindset, For you cannot fail with women, the only failure within a male to female interaction is her failure to see what a great prize you are – and take the opportunity with both hands.

ASSUME ATTRACTION!!! – YOU ARE A GREAT GUY!

Everyday, we wake up, hoping..just hoping that today will be our day, up like a lighting bolt, devour a delicious breakfast of eggs, streaky bacon, crunchy toast and a glass of orange juice as smooth as silk. We arrive at work on time to find that the boss is off sick for the week, leaving us chance to work at our own pace and happily browse away on these forums or do something else that is totally un-work related, such as throwing paper aeroplanes at female co-workers
It gets to lunch time, and outside in the courtyard you sit and eat your freshly prepared sandwich, as a beautiful woman walks past and flashes you a great smile. If only you think to yourself, if only i could get a woman like that…*sighs*

ASSUME ATTRACTION!!! – YOU ARE AN HANDSOME GUY!!!

What if you had a mindset, whereas every woman, every opportunity, every single thing that YOU truly wanted appeared easier than ever, that you could just reach out and take when you wanted to, not when Societal Programming deemed ‘correct’ or ‘proper’.
By Assuming Attraction, you can get ANYTHING you want, be that the woman of your dreams, the job of your dreams or anything else – Assume Attraction and your chance of getting what you want will increase tenfold.

ASSUME ATTRACTION!!! – YOU ARE UNIQUE!!!

What do i mean? Assume Attraction??

Do i mean ‘Assume that you are handsome’? YES!
Do i mean ‘Assume that you are capable’? YES!
Do i mean ‘Assume that you are funny’? YES!

Assume EVERYTHING that is positive, and what would truly endear you to other people!

Being Attractive is not necessarily being Handsome, Funny or Capable, being Attractive is the way you carry yourself, its the way you treat other around you, its the outlook you have on life, you are the positive one, the risk taker -the one who is unaffraid to embrace his masculinity to get what he truly wants and deserves.

ASSUME ATTRACTION!!! – YOU ARE AMAZING!!!

Take a look in the mirror, go ahead – smile, ask yourself, what woman wouldn’t even comprehend dreaming about being given the chance to spend even a millisecond of time with you in YOUR life, your life full of adventures, stories and Fun!
Women are a bonus, put here to enrich YOUR life, your life comes first – if women want to be part of it then it is upto them to prove that they are worthy of being included in the journey…

Love yourself, Why Not? How can anyone else love you if you don’t take care of who you are and love yourself first? Confidence is conveyed through the mind, and then the body – let those positive thoughts flow like a river – and Assume that Attraction!

Say it with me!

ASSUME ATTRACTION!!
ASSUME ATTRACTION!!
ASSUME ATTRACTION!!

And get what you want!

ASSUME ATTRACTION!!

And live your life to the fullest!

ASSUME ATTRACTION!!

And all the opportunities, all the enjoyable things, the luxuries, the jobs, the Women will be drawn to you!

Take that Interview by storm and GET THAT JOB!
Approach that 3set and CLOSE THOSE WOMEN!
Wake up everyday KNOWING that you are going to have a great day and that today will be just another day in YOUR great adventure…

ASSUME ATTRACTION!! -YOU ARE THE MAN!

Sarge On…

PostHeaderIcon How to talk to girls – FREE EBOOK!!

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If you’re completely unskilled with women…if you are the type of guy who wants, longs, and maybe even stares, instead of actually getting the girl, this book is definitely for you.

If you’re a beginner or an intermediate, you can expect to move to the next level after reading and applying the principles of this book.

If you’re advanced, there are some fresh and new outlooks on game that you will find particularly enlightening, as well as a guide to stepping up to the world of threesomes and multiple relationships.

People who have read this book have said “Really impressed!” and “THE NEL EBOOK IS FUCKING AMAZING!!!”.

OK, OK, that last quote was from me, but still, it IS fucking amazing!

Here’s a quick breakdown of SOME of the things you’ll find inside:

  • We know that getting good with women requires that certain verbal fluency, that gift of gab. Think you can’t get that? Think it’s something you’re born with, but can’t learn? Think again. It’s not easy, but it can be learned, and in this book you’ll find out how to do just that.
  • How to use kino (a posh word for touch) in a dominant and committed way that builds attraction
  • Insights into what we could call (for want of a better term) “female psychology”. This isn’t about learning tricks and manipulating people, it’s about developing social intelligence, something that people who are naturally good with women just seem to have by default. But you can learn it!
  • How to use what we call “qualifying” – setting the frame where you are the ‘chooser’, not the girl.
  • HOW TO GET THREESOMES. Let me just repeat that….HOW TO GET THREESOMES.
  • How to use the logistics of night time venues to your advantage – you need to be stacking all these cards in your favour!
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  • How to develop your “inner game” – becoming an authentic man

There’s much more too, I don’t want to spoil the surprise too much!

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By now you’re probably wondering how to download it. Well, it’s simple.

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PostHeaderIcon Stop Watching Life…Start Living It

by Shezz

I look around me, the fresh cool air blows in through my window, a banana skin lies sullen on my desk, a coffee mug stain is imprinted on my table, and dozens and dozens of notes on seduction lay scattered across my bed.

I look outside, the hustle and bustle of millions of people create a whirr of thoughts and cogitation in my head, it begs of me to ask the question…

What Have I Gained From This Site and What Do We Want To Be Able To Actually Access From It?

People are simple. Yes they are – People ARE simple.

Of all the races, in all the world, in all the universe – why is it that we have still failed to recoginize the potential that lies before our eyes.

Now, we all have different meanings and view of what this ‘Potential’ actually is, for some this may be:

- “An Excellent Sex Life”
- “A fabulous Job”
- “Great Health”
- “Strong Intellect”
- “Great Charisma”
- “Exceptional Social skills”
- “Adaptation Skills”
- “To be something, anything”
- “To HAVE a life worth living”

We all have a life – thats a no brainer, but how many of us actually LIVE a life? Not many.

For the majority of us, life is one big dream – something that can be passed through and will be good until its over – but we have no power over dreams, not consciously anyhow. If we look upon a dream as a kind of natural resource flowing within us, if we liken it to a river, a river shaped by our life experience, then its flow will not be changed simply by having someone on the shore urge a new direction on it. But if the person on the shore does the work necessary to make a change in direction possible, the flow will alter as desired. The point of the analogy is that there has to be more than conscious intent to influence the flow. There has to be a genuine emotional investment

So what are you getting at?

Let me explain.

I first started browsing this site some 2 years ago, never posting and always reading – i was a keyboard jockey – i never went out and sarged, i NEVER talked to strangers – i had no reason to, why did they want to talk to me?

I remember all those times when i would be walking through a shopping mall, and i would see that fat, ugly guy walking proudly with a girl who was indescribable, she was perfect – WHOA!! She just smiled at me (quick look away, look at the ground Shezz) ahhhh shes past, oof that was close! Im glad i didnt smile at the real sexy girl….wait….what am i talking about? I would stop, and look into the mirror like window of a passing shop, why am i so scared? Why cant i look people in the eyes, or smile, or talk to girls that i like, why havent i had a girlfriend and ive just turned 17!!!

I looked at myself again – acne plagued, puppy fat, shaved head, raggy clothes – do all these things make me look bad?….yes they..NO THEY DONT!!! WHY SHOULD THEY!?!?!

I cant control Acne – But i Damn Sure can beat it!!!
I can hit the Gym
I can get some new clothes
I can stop trying to be a white rapper and grow my hair!

Onwards i charged, digesting each of Pooks posts and combining them with Anti-Dumps, Vassagos, Krassus and the like – i started my progression to Shattering My Social Barrier.

1 Year passed, in that year id made some improvement – id made out with 5 girls!!! 5!!! – id beaten my acne finally – 7 years of treatment with Acid like creams and antibiotics had left my skin clear – i started to cherish that, id hit the gym, lost the puppy fat, my hair was stylish, but over all these things – the most important thing was that id changed my mindset and Shattered My Social Barrier.

Now, of this day – i have taken great strides to becoming the man i always wanted to be, and always knew i could be!

A plethora of Girlfriends, too-many, approaches daily – as if just natural, but more than anything – my mindset has truly evolved to be that of a true Alpha-Male, sure, i take care of my looks and style – but there are always going to be better looking guys than me, this is where I and YOU truly stand out – by recognizing that LOOKS dont matter – and that INNER game truly separated the men from the boys.

KNOW WHO YOU ARE FIRST, THEN USE YOUR INNER GAME TO YOUR FULLEST.

Theres nothing better than getting the better of a great looking guy (10) who has no ballz by using your PU Skills – when you get to that stage, its just unbeleivable – i believe that is the stage where you truly start to evolve.

THE SOCIAL BARRIER

My social barrier, OUR social barrier, develops over time – we arent born with it, we natural develop it – through years of distasteful talk regarding sex and the opposite sex, we develop a social barrier that nullifies our ability to approach, talk, and control the flow of conversations with the opposite sex without becoming flustered and nervous. Everyone does, it seems that these days – becoming nervous around girls is the most common disease of all – affecting probably 95+% of the male species, but what can you do to tackle this problem.

THERE IS NO MAGIC PILL

Go ahead, read, read, read, read, read – your knowledge on seduction and your overall intelligence will improve, you’ll gain useful insight onto WHY you can’t approach women, or even say Hi to strangers in the street – EXCELLENT ISNT IT! NO! ITS NOT!

No one ever learned to be a master PUA by just reading hoodlums of pages of seduction literature….without putting in the effort to get out and use it.

Ok, ok – this is a common statement. AND SO IT SHOULD BE!!!
IT IS ‘THE’ STATEMENT!!!

There is no success, there is no SHB, there is no FB, or glorious LTR without the input, without the commitment – without the FAILURES!!!

As mystery puts it: “There is no failure, Only Feedback” – this is so true it hurts, stamp it into your brainstem, write it on your wall and get out and DO!!!

There is not enough time to sit around and watch the world go by, there isnt enough time to watch your life crumble – as you yet again fail to approach that Girl that you really like, and really feel like you could make a relationship with or have for a fvck buddy.

To take some more advice from mystery – we are put on this world to primarily survive, and to survive we must come together as a race…and replicate!! YES – HAVE SEX!!!

Can we do this, this Natural process by sitting indoors and imagining this dream, and instead – ignore the scientific theories and TAKE CONTROL OF THIS DREAM!!!

What stopping you? Yes, right now what is stopping you from standing up, walking outside and approaching the first HB that you see?

SHATTER THE SOCIAL BARRIER!!!

Each one of our lives is shrouded in a veil, this dosnt obscure our movement, our sight, our smell – it obscures our Mindset! It is the thing that stops us from carrying out everyday, friendly, HUMAN activities in a natural way.

People are shy. Yes, People are shy and scared – Wellll, i dont know that person walking towards me, i shouldnt look at her or say hi incase she just ignores me!! REALISE THIS!! PEOPLE CARE, THEY WANT TO BE NOTICED, THEY WANT TO BE SEEN AND LOVED AND SEDUCED – EVERYDAY OF THEIR LIVES, THEY WANT TO HOLD CAREERS, HAVE HOUSES, CARS, PETS, GOOD FOOD – BUT ABOVE ALL ELSE – THEY WANT TO BE HAPPY, HEALTHY AND LOVED – THEN AND THEN ONLY CAN THEY ACHIEVE SELF-ACTUALISATION THAT THEY ARE THE PERSON THEY WERE BORN TO BE.

When im in my car – I wave to everybody, i shout to girls out of the window, i sing at the top of my lungs – Does that make me a bad person? LOL

Women wake up everyday, some 2 hours earlier than they should – to apply makeup, to pick out the best outfit, to select the best perfume – in hopes that this will be the day that the guy from her office, or the kid in gym class, or the old guy in the corner of the retirement home, or that perfect man…will walk into her life, grab his ballz and make her his!

DONT WAIT – INITIATE!!!

You there! Yes you, reading this thread – let me ask you a question…wait wait….i know you might be getting tired of reading but please – look back towards the screen.

Now – You know that girl who you really like, the one that whenever you see, you get butterflys in your stomach and your throat closes up, and your heart beats a mile a minute – yea you know!

How would you feel if you saw, one day – an ugly looking dude walk upto her, talk to her and get her phone number?

EXACTLY! Whos to blame? Take a look in the mirror mate – its that guy, that chump who was too scared to talk to an harmless little girl, a women whose biggest weapons are her milk sacks hanging from her chest – Does that scare you?

We are put here for a reason, YOU are put here for a reason! Dont waste the chance that you have been given.

Everychance that you waste…is another part of your life destroyed, be that career wise, health wise or sex wise.

- Get out and do!

Try and Fail, Try and Fail and eventually you will reap the rewards of your hardwork, you will reap the rewards of LIFE.

Know what you want, Know who you are…And laugh at all those people who mocked you or are too scared to get what THEY really want in life.

Be the exception…

Enter Mr N.Egative

Lovely post, Shezz. Thumbs up!

What if she does not give me her number then? I turn back to this forum and search for another of your deep and inspiring posts about not indulging to desperation?

Nobody of us will get what he’s looking for. Slowly and painfully, maybe without even noticing it, we’re all bound to mediocrity.

We’re just lying our way out of desperation. I’m so tired of faking charme and confidence. I would like to be loved and cherished for the person I am, not the stereotyped, fake, dull Alpha-male I learned to be by reading all this propaganda.

The truth is that we’re all shallow beings. Girls and boys are quite the same about this. Love, affection and sex are not connected with intelligence or wit, neither with cocky and funny sarcarm nor with framing. It’s just an instinct, which nobody can control. This is why you cannot force nobody to love you.

I’m not saying that your post is useless Shezzler, but I’m sick and tired of all this synthetic optimism. Who said universe should be fair?

…maybe I’m a bit depressed today. It’s safe to stop here. I don’t wanna start flame-wars or such things.

Sarge on… (which means stopping people by the street and ask their number after a minute? Frenetic, shallow and useless world we live in.

But alas – Here comes the Shezz!

The crowd gasps!!!

No body ever said that Life was going to be fair! But by standing aside and watching other people live their lives. take their opportunites and yours – then it becomes a problem.

Sure, you can read all the ‘Propaganda’ that you wish to read, it will give you a quick fix of egoistical confidence, but until you step out into the real world, away from the thousands of seduction and motivation related threads – you will never progress past the point where you are faking.

Where in this post did i say anything about faking life? I never fake my life – life shouldnt be treated as one big lie, it should be lived as on giant Truth!

Love, Affection and Sex arent connected to Wit or Intelligence? I have to disagree with you here my friend, how can you say this? Depending on the type of love – you are right, but since we are here on a seduction website – then Love, Sex and Affection IS connected with Wit and Intelligence – if your saying that it isnt then i believe that you are referring to those three componentes relating to Looks?

Sure – Looks are attractive, and girls are attracted to good looking guys and vice versa – does this mean all is lost for those people who arent good looking? Hell No!!!

By developing your mind, your body and adapting to the world around you – you will become a much more attractive figure in life -as you categorically questioned – who said the universe should be fair? No one!

How can you justify this question against the fact that you are complaining that no-one loves you for who you really are!

Because no-one knows WHO YOU REALLY ARE!!! EXCEPT YOU!!!

That is where YOUR wit, YOUR intelligence and YOUR personality is used to seduce women – thats how women love YOU for who YOU really are!!!

No one will get what hes looking for? Bound for mediocrity? Thats rubbish and you know it – you sound like a guy low on confidence, not just around girls but in life as a whole.

There are no quick fixes, no magic pills and until you realise this, that no WEBPAGE can get you what you are looking for – then and only then can you hope to evolve out of this mediocre rusk of a life that you find yourself in.

Sarging is not just going up to a girl on the street and asking for her number.

Its going out with the intent of meeting women and getting to know them, by the process of elimination – and in all our hearts we all seek that one, that one woman who will love us and cherish us for who we are – thats what sarging is, demonstrating to a women just who you are and finding out about her in return, by means of seduction tactics – not only ones that are tried and tested but through ones that you yourself have invented.

Mr N.Egative Feels Angry – he throws back his head and retorts

You’re quite right Shezzler… but I’m so tired, I’ve been getting so many rejections lately. And you know what bothers me more. It’s not the rejection in itself, but the immense burden of ipocrisy that comes with it.

“I’m just having a bad time, I cannot have a boyfriend…”

“I’m a lesbian…”

“You’re not my type…”

“What the fvck did you just say?”

…I know that, by process of elimination, I’ll find someone, but when we get something after such a long streak of failures, we’re going to never be able to accept to lose it when it will be the time… I don’t know if you can understand this. I’m just tired of all this game – it’s too difficult, why is it so easy for someone that is so shallow and it’s so hard for someone as intelligent, deep and profound about myself?

You’re right indeed, Shezzler, so right it hurts, but I’m just tired today. I hope you all can cope with that. I like to consider you as friends. I rely on friends when I’m feeling bad. So please don’t be mad at my random rants.

And no, I haven’t got low self-esteem. My looks are not bad (4.3 on Hotornot, I must be pretty hot! ), I speak five foreign languages, can discuss any issue you can imagine without problems, and I’m going to be an aerospace engineer in about six months… I’m the best a girl could desire, I think. That’s not self-esteem. It’s that I don’t have the utter esteem in all this seduction thing. We’re making an intellectual war out of an elementary thing. Our culture ruined much of this.

By the way…

Oh yeah, sarge on…

Shezz retakes the Lectern

I sense an overwhelming thickness of sarcasm dripping from your words, aswell as the fact that underneath it all – there seems to be a contrived flame against me.

We are your friends man!

And your right about the fact that we are making an intellectual war out of somthing that is so natural and so easy that it is damn near destroying our social pockets that exist, there is no togetherness between us as a whole race anymore, different segments exist upon different continents – racial segregation separates us and often ends up weakening our bonds, we all have the same blood colour – why is there so much hatred, this hatred all congeals and conspires in escalation towards other areas of life – seduction, health, careers – eventually, If we as a race and WE as INDIVIDUALS dont step up to the plate that is life, then social programming will eventually turn us all socially inept.

Good Luck in Your search

Stand And Fight!!! Enter Mr.AFC!!!

Shezz
I have to say, my thoughts at the moment are along the same lines as Mr N.Egatives (almost exactly) whereas I’m not being rejected, I’m just never trying.
I’d really love to hear from you what encouraged you to motivate yourself to change from a shy person (am I correct in saying this?) to a free, outgoing person. What went through your mind that made you change yourself, what images did you have in your mind when you changed, what were they like? How did you force yourself to overcome that first hurdle?

I have great plans for my life, it’s just taking action on my goals and believing that they’ll bring me happiness that’s the problem.

Shezz is almost spent, the AFCs relentlessness to Sarge is mindnumbing – but he takes to the stand one last time

There comes a point in every persons life where they say…Enough is Enough.

Your right, i was shy, i was socially inept – and the change all came down to one thing and one thing only – my lack of ability with women – upto the age of 17.5 – i never even held hands with a girl – Do you know how heart breaking and demoralising that can be on a kid that already as self-esteem issues? Most guys will be able to connect with that – some being bullied, some lightly teased, not fitting in, acne – not having as much stuff as other kids – getting teased for that?

This dosnt matter – but for kids growing up – ITS HARD NOT FOR IT TO MATTER!!!

How the hell can they become PUA’s when they can’t even pick up their own life? Its emotional torture, why should they try? People make them look ridiculous without the attempts – so any attempts at talking to girls will be scorned..SURELY?

Remember how, the hottest girl of the school looks at you like your some kind of stud, she likes you – YES SHE DOES, but social programming throughout life and in the tiny oyster that is school as taught that hottie that going after the nerdy guy – no matter how good looking he is -HE IS THE NERDY GUY!

Society has programmed it – He has defined it!

To overcome this barrier, that guy must overcome the veil that clouds his mindset -he must become the prize, he must know that HE IS THE PRIZE – thats what i did.

I went out and talked to strangers – greeted them – it was hard, DAMN HARD! BUT IT MUST BE DONE!
I went to clubs – at first i sucked, it took me around 2 months to get good at club approaches! But i wanted to get good! So i did! I worked hard on my inner game, something that i had long neglected – outer game is just a little piece!

Its all about WHAT YOU WANT in life – and if that thing That YOU want isnt enough to instill the will, the determination and drive into you – then nothing is.

It is hard, life is hard – but thats what makes it so fun – its a game! and every step should be enjoyed – fuck what anyone else thinks!

YOU are the prize -get out and live like it!

Sarge On…

With that, Shezz disappeared into a cloud of smoke…The Nightclubs were open – and while the AFCs continued to ignore, and read on – he went out and sarged

-Shezz

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