Day 2 Rules and Regulations
So you’ve gotten a number and set up a date. Good for you! But now what? Here’s Colonel to explain all….
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Right this has taken up my lunch hour so you’d better read it!
I have recently been asked on my advice on about day 2’s, what to do, how to behave and how to escalate etc. A lot of the guys are getting numbers with increasing frequency and arranging them.
Most people have previously found their GF’s in social circle and won’t have done this before. In the last 2 years I would estimate that I have been on around 50 day 2’s.
There’s tonnes of stuff on PU but hardly anything on this element of game so here goes……
I am going to write a few guidelines on what to do/how to behave and how to escalate on a day 2.
Now there are a few things I should say here.
The first thing you should always go for is to move venues with her after isolation, and then you have an ‘instant day 2′ This is a fantastic opportunity to strike while the iron is hot and go for the F-close on the first day.
If you are forced into getting her number and moving on, you must make it clear that you are getting her number in order to arrange a date with her and say you will call her with the details of the meet up. YOU MUST get her agreement that this is why she is giving you her number! This makes number closing solid all round and prevents this ‘validation texting’ that women seem to love doing for 3 or 4 days after a Saturday night, with absolutely no intention of ever going on a date with you.
Another point is that more than 1/2 of the day 2’s I go on I never go any further with, the chemistry isn’t right or whatever but expect that this may be the case with yours. Also remember that you are the one that chooses whether you will or won’t going on another- you are the prize after all!
Finally the other thing with day 2’s is clearly knowing yourself what you want from this, is it sex and to move on? Is it an FB or is it and LTR/MLTR? It is very easy for her to assume BF/GF frame from the beginning, and some of the things below may lead to this frame so be careful. It’s obvious which ones do lead to that. If she has you in this frame she may want to make you wait several dates before sex to increase the chances of you becoming BF. More on this later in troubleshooting.
WHAT TO DO
OK So let’s assume you have set up the meet, here are a few ideas that can work for a day 2.
Shopping for clothes for you- always a winner
Visiting a local art gallery
Visiting any local tourist attraction
Going for a walk (for me this can be awesome considering where I live but every city has nice parks and shit)
The idea behind the above is doing an activity together, women really love that shit and it shouldn’t be underestimated. It also provides a good thread and topic of conversation throughout. I am interested in art so if I can take a chick to an art gallery and talk intelligently about some paintings, she will be impressed.
Going for a coffee, probably better done after one of the above activities but still absolutely fine
Going for an alcoholic drink- this can be a winner if you are within walking distance of your or her home!
Venues for day 2’s as has been mentioned before are better if they are closer to one or others of your homes but it can’t always be done due to logistics.
HOW TO BEHAVE
Right, you can forget about all of your routines because they are only good for a few minutes and you may be spending 3 or hours with this woman- you need to convey your personality to her. The single most important advice I can give you is BE YOURSELF.
Most people on this forum are well educated and pretty worldly wise, everybody on this forum has a more interesting life than 99% of chicks (who primarily shop, gossip, go for beauty treatments, and watch TV) so you should have some interesting shit that is going on in your lives to tell her about.
Me personally, I bust them and take the piss out of them and just have a lot of fun, I also tell them funny stories about my past. I have a repertoire of about 6 or 7 that seem to go down well, you MUST have your own material.
Lots of questions will come from her about your job, your family (particularly relationships with mother and sister), your loyalty, what you think of kids, whether you are kind/generous and your aspirations & ambitions etc. These are all classic questions and don’t worry about them it’s normal and they are not shit tests. Answer them honestly.
Going further on with the ambition/aspiration thing, this is something that you should be going on about a fair bit, women like ambitious men a lot. It doesn’t have to be about making money, you may be a teacher and want to become the best you can be, you may be a musician or a writer or any number of other things, it really doesn’t matter as long as you are passionate about it!
It is OK to talk about sex, what it’s not OK to talk about is you having sex with her. This is a massive no no.
I usually manage to get the subject round to sex and talk about it in a natural, matter of fact way. Women like men to be sexual without being perverted or dropping hints towards them. A confident man can carry this off without any problem, if you are not confident in discussing sex with women openly then do not discuss it.
Be polite and gracious, be a gentleman, treat her well and make her feel good about herself, make her feel special but don’t put her on a pedestal though.
Let her talk about things that interest her or things that are topical, Big brother is a good one if you watch at the moment, all the chicks do.
Using Big Brother as an example you can then move this on to questions like, why do all the girls fancy Pete (which at the beginning none would have even considered it!)?
You can then move this on to ‘What type of guy do you go for’, ‘what’s the most important thing in a man’ and then you can ’sell’ these qualities in yourself back to her later on- therefore eliciting value.
I think it is also important to screen women and make sure you do. Make sure they are aware that you are screening her and are being selective about who you go out with, this shows that you value yourself.
Her screening questions are about your family, job and background etc. These are less important to men but you should have your own questions. My fears when it comes to chicks are neediness, attention seeking, game playing and general freakishness so my questions are geared towards this.
Look to what you want and ask your questions.
HOW TO ESCALATE
Ideally you will have already k-closed her during the first meet, if this is the case it will be straightforward so as early as possible you need to be giving her plenty of kino. Perhaps you could hold her hand and then as Dave D says say ‘this is too early to be holding hands’ and let go. This will make it seem like she is the one making all the running.
So plenty of kino and plenty of good eye contact.
I would highly recommend that you read Gunwitch’s ’sexual state’ in the advanced section of his ebook.
In essence his idea is that in order to get a woman into a sexual state you give her the bedroom eyes and your bedroom voice (which is the same as if you were talking to her after you have fucked her) and act in a sexy way without talking directly about sex, this will make her think in a sexual way herself.
His analogy is walks like a duck, talks like a duck, IS a duck, so walk and talk in a sexy way and you are sexy and she will feel sexual towards you.
I can’t tell you the right moment to go for the k-close but it should be way before the end of the date. If it is then you have a good chance of escalating to the point where you can suggest a venue change, back to yours perhaps for a couple of drinks or to see your pannini sticker album or whatever the fuck it is. Definitely don’t say do you want to come back to my place and leave it at that. Give her a reason to come that is not sexual and she will come.
You may end up just having a couple of hours together on the day 2 and have to go for a day 3, if this is the case don’t worry as long as you fuck her in the end you have achieved your goal. If it gets to day 4 (or the 3rd date in her eyes) and you haven’t it’s not looking good but isn’t necessarily a lost cause.
Good day 3’s are meals/DVD’s at your place or saying ‘lets go out on Friday night and get drunk’ both lead to sex that night in my experience.
TROUBLESHOOTING
I don’t fuck on first dates (remember your day 2 is her first date with you)
Tricky but you should have conveyed a sexual state from the beginning, you may have tried to escalate too quickly or a million other things. It happens regularly, don’t worry too much about it, go for day three if you want to, then eject.
I won’t have sex with you until after the nth date.
This again is her putting you in BF mode which is fine if that’s what you want. This is more of a shit test and should be answered with the following response. ‘I hope you don’t mind me dating other women until such a time that you do want to have sex’
Sex Venue.
You must have one planned, every time you go out sarging as well as for a day 2. Enough said.
I’m not a slut.
Same as above really, I always say to women ‘in my eyes there really is no such thing, haven’t you noticed that the main group of people that call women sluts are other women. Have you ever noticed that’?
This is diamond material. If you have her in isolation already then she will think to herself, this guy is right so I trust his judgement, I am more likely to sleep with him now than I was 5 minutes ago.
Hope this helps!
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