Group Loyalty Dynamics
by SteviePUA
Girls often go out in groups to bars and clubs. We know that. Who are these chicks? Well some are out for fun, some are out to drink, some for attention, some are out to dance and some are out to meet a guy. There could be a whole host of CONSCIOUS reasons in her mind for going out and although meeting a guy might not be consciously in her head as the reason for going out, an UNCONSCIOUS and powerful motivation for hitting the town that night is the social and sexual interaction that is possible. Think about it, if she really was JUST out to dance she could have stayed home and danced in her front room with a friend, a CD and a bottle of wine AND she would have saved a lot of money.
No, there are often unconscious psychological processes at work in our minds, and while she might not be able to recognise the forces that make her feel like going out, they are so often present pulling the strings and motivating our behaviour behind the scenes.
Of course there doesn’t have to be just one or two reasons, there are usually many.
What I want to recognise here is chicks very often have hooking up as either a conscious, or more likely, a unconscious motivating factor in their minds when they go out to bars and clubs. They might not recognise it as such and they may rationalise it to themselves by saying “I am just going out to dance”, but nevertheless, bigger forces can lie under the surface and these can be tapped into by the person with the right skills.
I mentioned before about chicks often going out in groups together. There exists a group dynamic between these chicks , a kind of “I’ll watch your back and you watch mine”. They know on some level that they are prone to doing crazy things like making out/having sex with a guy who they might later regret having done so, or who the societal matrix might disapprove of in the light of day. They can experience attraction spikes, see a tremendous opportunity or feel strong attraction with the result of shutting off parts of their self-censoring conscious minds when they are so excited.
This is similar to the way a guy’s brain, if a chance for sex is on the table, can shut off higher level processing in some way and he can do silly things like having sex without a condom just because the opportunity is there right in front of him and if he doesn’t take it then he might lose out and never get the chance again.
These kind of reactions in both men and women can be traced back, in all probability, to our evolutionary past. Chicks therefore, because of this shutting down of higher levels of their thinking which results in impusive behaviour, watch out for each other and can drag each other away from a guy who is clearly not up to the mark or who seems ‘dodgy’ but who is frying the chick’s circuits and seems to be doing well despite his apparent lack of fitness traits to the rest of the female group.
There exists a glitch to be exploited by the PUA, though. What if the friends’ reaction is wrong and they pull their friend away from this guy who might ACTUALLY be ‘all that’ despite not having the usual traits. Take a guy who is mega-rich and the guy is gaming a girl and her friends try to pull her away.
The friends saw a normal looking guy appearing to be doing well with someone who they judge as being of higher fitness (their girlfriend). Why should he be doing so well in their eyes?
They don’t know he is mega-rich. Therefore there has to be a sub-routine in the minds of the chicks which allows for the possibility of a guy who appears regular but who has hidden charms and high level fitness which is not initially apparent. Otherwise a rich guy might come along (or another guy with very high value) and they all lose out through not realising what he had to offer. This is the glitch and it is where group set theory comes into its own.
Think of two forces pulling on the target – one is the PUA and the other is the target’s friends. They want to protect her but also have to allow for the possibility of an amazing guy engaging her. How do they decide whether to pull the friend away?
1. They gather information themselves on the quality of the guy – how he looks, what he says, how he communicates, and how other people react to him.
2. They get an indication from their friend that this guy is someone she wants to be with and they should not cockblock him.
It is in displaying value and winning over the target, or ideally BOTH the target and the group that allows you the in-road to keeping going with the sarge and allows you to use the glitch in the societal matrix. Of course, one of the reasons for isolating the target is to avoid this kind of loyalty protection, but sometimes you need to face this loyalty issue just to get the isolation without interference.
When you are talking to a chick you like next time, think to yourself – what is the dynamic that this chick has with the rest of her group. How well does she know them? What kind of a bar or club are you in and how much protection is she likely to need – hint – in places like nightclubs which are reknown places for guys to go to PU chicks they are likely to have a greater emphasis on loyalty between group members but in more relaxed places like traditional pubs where people go after work to chat and relax there is likely to be less loyalty and protection between group members and therefore less of a dynamic for you to have to overcome.
Also think about the time of day or night you are engaging the group – late at night is almost always going to result in a stronger loyalty dynamic between the group unless they are crazy party girls who live life on the edge – often LSE types, by the way.
If you can overcome that loyalty that the friends of the target feel towards protecting the target from a guy they are unsure about then you are going places with the girl of your choice. Winning over the group becomes such an important ability to have then. If you can’t overcome that loyalty dynamic which is felt for the target by the group you’d better learn how to do group set theory if you want to do well with fast seduction as part of solid game.
Start thinking about the group loyalty dynamic.
SteviePUA